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Bericht  Oppergeus op ma okt 26, 2009 1:07 am

Dear Americans, my friends and saviours,

WARNING
This letter contains some very shocking information, for what I was banned from a British, and an American forum, after posting it.

By a Dutchman.
Being a Dutchman means, that I live in Holland. Holland is a part of Africa: the south point, a part of America: Suriname, a part of West Asia: The Netherlands and Belgium. Yes, two countries in Asia contain Dutch citizens. We speak in a language, that has had the Bible as the standard in the 1600's, where the children where teached a language, by learning them to read and write, from the Bible. Britisch language not so, the British languages are contained on an Island. Some neighbouring Islands in West Asia, on the opposite of Japan. Japan is in East Asia. Britain is the Neighbour of Holland, just as Canada is the neighbour of the USA. Or Mexico. Another neighbour of my contry is Germany, that is a very large country, and France, also very large. But my country, stretching from the South point of Africa, to America in Suriname and once even New York, to Japan in the past, where my country was the only West Asian friends to for 200 years in the 1600's to 1800, until Napoleon invaded here with France, my country is stretcing all over the planet. Napoleon invaded here, just as Germany invaded here with Hitler, only, 140 years earlier. During Napoleon South Africa was split from Holland. 15 Years later, Holland was split into the Netherlands and Belgium.

In the time of Glory in my country, the 1600's, Roman Catholicism was prohibited. There is proof for that, there are still hidden Roman Catholic churches found in the Netherlands. In Amsterdam there is one I know, called schuilkerk, a Roman Catholic Church hidden inside a building used for other things. No Roman Catholic statues or other Papal propaganda was allowed in the open. The old Roman Catholic Churches where used for animal stables, for zoo's and horses. The statues where taken down, because they are Blasphemy.


Hidden Roman Catholic Church inside an expensive building.

Today, all people in the Netherlands and Belgium are Roman Catholic again. They do exactly what the Pope wants them to do, they have no choice, because if people do not comply to Roman Catholic Sunday worship, one gets arrested by the Popish Hermandad in ugly blue priest suits, the Helly Inquisition. Well, I joke about it, but it is the truth, if people over here open their store or workshop on Sunday, they get attacked by the Goverment. Only pubs and restaurants may open, because the Pope wants that, all people agree on it, otherwise they end up in prison. And worse, they don't want to know. The woman are the most fearful, they have committed to popish Sainte Claus, 100% illegal Roman Catholic propaganda, and Christmass, also 100% illegal. Roman Catholic Eastern, every heathen Popish propaganda against peace, the people commit to it. If I say so, they flee, no time, slave job for the system. Many get killed, there is complete information control, 3 famous people last 5 years are killed for protesting against the illegal moslem infiltration are killed: Pim Fortuyn, Theo van Gogh, Pamela Hemelrijk. They get killed by the Roman Catholics, that import the moslems here, because otherwise the Roman Catholics will stay a minority. The previous Blackcoat General, Hans Kolvenbach, was an Arabist. People are violently enforced by information control, to be enemies to their nation, their children, they have no choice. Well suicide is an option, but is also prohibited. Roman Catholic Marriage or Gay marriage, they can choose.

Today as I write is sunday. Yesterday was Sabbath, my rest is over, I want to work. If I go work, the Government people that attack me the most, are not the Roman Catholics, but the Christians. The Protestants, Protestant Christian they call themselves. I acknowledge them as so. They worship on Sunday for the Pope, try to make Abortion illegal, disallow any other form other than a Roman Catholic marriage, by the State. Christians. Christians teach, to obey the State, whatever the State does. Christans have installed the Mark of the Beast here, according to the Newspapers, and attack any honest man, lie about it after they kill them, hire killers from every where, give passports to the friends that bribe them. Most people obey them, because the government has taken our arms, the government is Christian, and if the people do not support Chritianity, they have 2 alternate ideologies to choose from, being rightwing freedom and democracy as Napoleon and Hitler had, or Red Socialism. Ecological politics is 100% prohibited, any person there gets killed or sabotaged.

People that I speak to say: That the Pope has written the Bible. All of them. Keeping the Sabbath is for Jews, and if you discuss it otherwise, you are called a Witch, and are persecuted, because Witchcraft, the Sabbath keepers, is associated with Satanism by the Christians. Jew is made into a curse word, I am very worried about the few Jews left living here, because the Roman Catholics are now enforced by the Moslems. They work together, persecuting any common sense, while the Roman Catholics support them Arabic Prophethaters 100%. The Christians say nothing, take their salary, keep the Roman Catholic sunday, have stolen the Animal houses, help to register any one not registered, and support the Pope against Abortion, Revolt, for sunday by law, Sabbath persecution, creating division amongst the people, Christmass, Eastern, installing the Mark of the Beast, informing Hermandad, accepting Medical inquisition, voting, blaphemous crosses, neckties, conformism in benches, accepting papermoney, animal torture in the corrupt food monopoly industry, silence ... is what comes to my mind now.

Roman Catholic preachers, have been active and powerful here, since the 1600's. They destroy bibles, because reading a Bible in their own language, has been prohibited for Roman Catholics untill 1965, Vaticanum 2. Rome will not make reading the Bible legal to the people, if it doesn't have complete control over the translation! The best Bible translation is, according to a Dutch Roman Catholic that told me: The King James 1611 translation. A Roman Catholic translation indeed. English is not my native language, but I was able to compare William Tyndales translation, and the Dutch translations, but also the Geneva Bible translations to the King James 1611 translation, my conclusion: The King James 1611 is very popish. If you want to check what I say, go look for the word "church" in Geneva or Tyndale Bible...

Not a church?
Indeed. And this destroys all Theology, that is believed by the Christians, that are allowed to spread their popish lies on this planet. Building Churches is popish, it's not teached in the Bible. Tyndale translated Ecclecias as congregation. Congregation refers to a community, a living community, the death go to Church. And if you tell them, if they give any life, they will attack you for telling them. They do not want to be confronted to the fact, that they are trying to divide the people in good and evil, because people in churches believe that people that do not go to churches are evil, otherwise they would not go there. Unless they can make money on it, as the Priests and who ever one they pay, to support such an expensive building for themselves.

A building for people, not for creation. Only creation by people is found there, done on the material created by the Lord. Was the Lord asked? Sometimes if the wood of the tree, or de drawings in the marble are visible, I would say. But outside left alone, there is many life. Zombie Spirit is not a legend, it is a reality. The march of the living dead, that worship humans in funerals, while the meat would not be wasted in Nature. Dogs may want to eat it, but pigs also like some meat once and a while. Expensive food, when hungry, why waste it? Well, wurms are also alive, the funeral people pray for the wurms. The pets of the Christians. Cremation is a more technological waste, also other materals are wasted, cremated meat to burned to eat. The dead bury the dead.


Matthew 8:22
But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Luke 9:60
Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

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Bericht  dragonfist op ma okt 26, 2009 3:58 am



This Schuilkerk in Gorichem calls itself Lutheran Evangelical.
I regard their online theology as Roman Catholic.
Sunday worshippers. clown
...
I hope I'm wrong. Let's check...
No They use the word "Kerck"(Church), not "Gemeente"(Congregation)
...Maybe they are Germans, that have never read a Dutch Bible.

Britain never invaded here, but invaded New Amsterdam, now New York. And South Africa. In the Boer Wars. Boer is Dutch for farmer. Dutch farmers where attacked by British professional military men, after Napoleon invaded here localy, and after my country was split up in two parts by the Hegelian Dialectic. This dialectic agitation is also visible in the Churches, once called Congregations, but still are mentioned Congregations in the Protestant Dutch Bible translation. But in the Roman Catholic Bible translation, Congregation is called Church, just as in the King James 1611 translation.

Suspect
This is a today Roman Catholic Hide Church in Amsterdam. They where a lot more agressive as the Lutheran one, because I was not allowed to save their image, so had to grab it. I hope Hide Church would be the best translation for Schuil-Papentempel. This was a hidden Church, so it was not visible from the outside that it was a Papist Temple. Otherwise these people would be arrested. If you tell this to Christians ... Oppergeus warned you on top of the page!

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There are stories about King James would have been homosexual. Well, I don't care, because the Bible, the New Testament, is also a story about men only. The Old testament not so, where we have the stories of Judith and Esther, and the important role that woman play in the families of Abraham, and many other stories. But what I do worry about, is Roman Catholics making Homosexual behaviour prohibited, than Christians also go help out the Roman Catholics in that, hypocrites will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. A brave man would ask the Homosexual why he is a Homosexual, or ask the Lord, but will not use the Bible as proof for his popish claim. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is found in Genesis, I will quote from there, why the I AM would destroy these cities.

And there came angells to Sodome at euen. And Lot satt at the gate of the cyte. And Lot sawe the and rose vp agaynst them and he bowed hym selfe to he grounde with his face. And he sayde: Se lordes turne in I praye you in to youre servauntes house and tary all nyghte and wash youre fete and ryse vp early and go on youre wayes. And they sayde: nay but we will byde in the streates all nyghte. And he copelled them excedyngly. And they turned in vnto hym and entred in to his house and he made them a feaste and dyd bake swete cakes and they ate.
But before they went to rest the men of the cyte of Sodome compassed the house rownde aboute both olde and yonge all the people from all quarters. And they called vnto Lot and sayde vnto him: where are the men which came in to thy house to nyghte? brynge the out unto vs that we may do oure lust with them. And Lot went out at doores vnto them and shote the dore after him and sayde: nay for goddes sake brethren do not so wekedly.
Beholde I haue two doughters which haue knowne no man the will I brynge out vnto you: do with them as it semeth you good: Only vnto these men do nothynge for therfore came they vnder the shadowe of my rofe. And they sayde: come hither. And they sayde: camest thou not in to sogeorne and wilt thou be now a iudge? we will suerly deale worse with the than with themAnd as they preased fore vppon Lot and beganne to breake vp the doore the men put forth their handes and pulled Lot in to the house to them and shott to the doore. And the men that were at the doore of the house they smote with blyndnesse both small and greate: so that they coude not fynde the doore. And the men sayde moreover vnto Lot: Yf thou have yet here any sonne in lawe or sonnes or doughters or what so euer thou hast in the cyte brynge it out of this place: for we must destroy this place because the crye of the is great before the LORde. Wherfore he hath sent vs to destroy it.
And Lot went out and spake vnto his sonnes in lawe which shulde haue maried his doughters and sayde: stonde vpp and get yow out of this place for the LORde will destroy the cite.

{Genesis Chapter 19:1~14} ©Willam Tyndale

You decide yourself. From my research it so so, that Homosexuals that I asked about their prefence, told me they prefer to live like that. I mean, it's overpopulated in Europe, especially the Roman Catholic and Moslem families have and have had huge amounts of children, they may not use condoms or abortion. This makes me happy, when I see a Homosexual, less crowded in the future.

Why all you people believe these lies, I do not understand. These hypocrite statements create war every where. I mean, why does a human think, it is any better than an animal? Children make graves for their pets, but eat pigs and cows? Why? Meat is not needed to survive. But a place to live is. Plants, light, air, food, water, energy, herbs for healing, clothing, tools, a place for shelter. What do humans give to their neighbours in Creation? A lawnmower? Kill kill kill. I see people killing very holy plants, they call them weeds. I can image such a thing a a place where food is grown, but they do it elsewhere also! And the worse thing is, I am not like that, so people attack me for it, that I must mow my lawn, while 30 different plants are found and several animals from insects, they just want to kill it all. These satanic beings are every where, also in places where it is less populated. There is no life in these people. No life here means, and I warn you, this was also what Jesus meant, they can not think for them selves. Not because they are not smart, but because they do not love their neighbour, the plants animals and planet altoghether. I don't know what they love, because when it comes down to it...

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Geef varkens de ruimte Lucifer worshippers are the Roman Catholics, not Sabbath keeping Witches

Bericht  Butcherprophet op di okt 27, 2009 5:24 am

The most important story in the Usa:
Roman Catholics killing off the Congregation of Tony Alamo Ministries
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/audio/2009/2009-LRN/10-2009-LRN/GSIJ.100809_070500.MP3
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October 8 2009. Sonny and Margereth calling in on the Investigative Journal. They are current survivers of the mass genocide conducted by the Roman Catholics in the USA.


This is normal. Roman Catholics are like that, they kill every one, that can read a Bible in their own language. If they can. They do it in Holland, in every country on the Planet. In Africa, some years ago, they killed hundreds of Witches. They might have been people, that would read the Bible, and understood they had to keep the Sabbath. The Bible is called, Harry Potter's magic spell book. Than the Christians, the Roman Catholics, than get fired up, and go kill of these intellectuals.

This is why Roman Catholicism was made prohibited in the Netherlands. In the 1600's. In Japan this was done also. That is why Hiroshima and Nagasaki where Nuked by American Roman Catholics. The Dutch Constitution, now sabotaged, was a living document, where Acts where set up, that had to solve the problems of Roman Catholic infiltration during the 1600's and 1700's. The first Act, our sabotaged Constitution, was set up in 1581, Act of Abjuration. In there is a small history of the genocides the Roman Catholics held here, compleet villages where killed out by the Roman Catholics. Today they are the same, as we saw in Rwanda, a recent Genocide, In Burma killing the Buddhists again, as the Roman Catholics did in Vietnam. The Roman Catholics control the US Government. Here some pictures to proof my point:


George Bush is a Roman Catholic.


George W Bush visiting the Roman Catholic Hide Church. I call it Hide Church, because George Bush told the people he is a Baptist, or better, the Romanist Controlled Press, always lying for the Pope, calls George Bush a Baptist. A covert Roman Catholic, a Roman Spy.

Just as Tony Blair was always a Roman Catholic, and about every Dutch or British politician you might meet. The Papists, blasphemous hypocrites, stealing our children, in order to make them $ex slaves for bribery. The friends of the Duke of Alba the Toledo, making money thanks to Popish King Philip the 2nd in the 16th Century, where Martin Luther would carpent the 95 theses on the Wittemberg door, October 31 1517. Halloween for the Heretics, the Papists. The most ugly people, lower than pigs, easy to recognize, because all are members of the Ustashe.


This banner was made by my British friend, Graig-Oxley

Helly Trinity: Ministers, Doctors and Laywers.
Some have translated Sadducees, Farisees and Scribents this.

Roman Catholics defend themselves against the truth, protecting their lying coward stealing, robbing, killing, plundering behind behind the scenes, saying: Jesus Christ will save us!
Really? They sit om Moses's seat!
Sunday Worship is Babylonian, a Roman Heresy!

Who will save Jesus Christ?
Well?

Saving them honorable honest people from the Ministers, Doctors and Laywers. Maybe politicians should be mentioned also, and military officers. George Bush is not the only Roman Catholic infiltrating. He is not comitting High Treason, because he is a foreigner, his country where he is legal is called The Vatican.

Here another American President, calling itself a Baptist.
Just as Baptist, as the Lutheran Evangelicals in the Hide Church above would be in any way Evangelical or Lutheran, an impossible combination any ways.


Clapping for Antichrist.
After murdering the David Koresh Congregation in Waco, and after Bombing the Russian Orthodox Serbs for the Pope, in support for the historical Ustashe.

Yougoslabia was not the only war, that Roman Catholic Americans would fight for their Pope. Vietnam was also bombed for the Pope. Real Baptists, killed by the millions in Europe by the Roman Catholics, help out the Pope now. Not that it helps them in any way, because we Europeans saw on Omaha Beach in 1944, that Southern Baptists where massacred by the Roman Catholic military officiers in the USArmy, while making a lot more money than their victims. That was not the only battle in the Second World war, where USArmy was just killing of American Baptists and other people that do not voluntary co operate to the Pope. Now Tony Alamo, Michael Travesser, FLDS Children, that are kept secret and lied about also over here in the Netherlands and Belgium. These lyers about Tony Alamo and the others, would not be save to do this here, because in the Netherlands Roman Catholics is a minority, but in the USA they are a huge majority! Not? Sorry, sunday worshippers are Roman Catholics, Necktie wearers are Roman Catholics, many more ways to hunt the enemies of God.

Purgatory.

Okay people, you can pay me 1000 Dollars, to be 10 days less in Purgatory.
...The Pope doesn't like competition; that's how this mountain of lies is seen.


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Bericht  Butcherprophet op zo nov 22, 2009 9:17 am

When I would read The Vatican Billions by Avro Manhattan, I was some what disappointed.
In this interview the missing information on Vatican Billions today is found:

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/audio/2009/2009-LRN/11-2009-LRN/GSIJ.110409_070500.MP3
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Bericht  Roelfzema op za jan 23, 2010 4:48 am


This is one book every American should read.
Below it is in Audio read by Gordon Comstock.
Samuel Morse Quote: “We must first stop the leak in the ship through which muddy waters from without threaten to sink us.” Quote from "Foreign Conspiracy against the Liberties of the United States" by Samuel Morse 1835. The food of Popery is ignorance. Ignorance is the mother of papal devotion. Ignorance is the legitimate prey of Popery. Ignorance: The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uniformed. Quote from George Orwell's book 1984. Ignorance is strength!
It should read Ignorance is popery.

I would recently discover, that the book, A Foreign Conspiracy against the United States, by Samuel Morse the inventor of the Morse Code, is also published as an Audio book. It can be downloaded here;
http://seawaves.us/audio/morse/morse-ch1&2.mp3
http://seawaves.us/audio/morse/morse-ch3&4.mp3
http://seawaves.us/audio/morse/morse-ch5&6.mp3
http://seawaves.us/audio/morse/morse-ch7&8.mp3
http://seawaves.us/audio/morse/morse-ch9&10.mp3
http://seawaves.us/audio/morse/Morse-ch11.mp3
http://seawaves.us/audio/morse/morse-ch12.mp3
Or in Pdf here;
http://bandonisp.com/tf/Samuel_Morse1853.pdf
The original page where it is from is over here:
http://seawaves.us/audio/radio.html
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Bericht  Roelfzema op di feb 02, 2010 3:58 am

SANTA = SATAN !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mii9jjszgp0
xlivescom is a Youtube account, that is very up to date in research.
The uploaded playlists are also very great.

A mistake the research is making, is that Krisna is believed by most Americans be a "Pagan" God. The word Pagan however has been invented by the Pope, in order to kill off Americans for their Gold and land, and to make them into slaves. The theology is very much attacked and destroyed by certain intellectuals, in order to dumb the people down. Socrates and Spartacus where the victims of the same system Jesus was. It looks to me that Dad would sent His Son, in order to help out...

The same is been done Europe, for around 2000 years now, and by the killing of Jesus Christ by the Romans. The Romans had brainwashed the Jews, the people where to blind to see that they where a part of the system. The Apostles where only a few merry men. That where armed and dangerous, because Jesus could heal that slave, after the ear was taken of by a sword by one of the Apostles. Sword was the same as a gun these days, Apostles really need a gun, much more than Maffia Boss, Secret Service and Police. What do you think about Tony Alamo, Wayne bent, David Koresh, Thousands of protestant children abducted, violent propaganda destroying the family. Central controlled food for easy kill, central controlled energy for making slaves depending, registered slaves. What do you think will happen if you want to flee, as Spartacus did. Saw the movie? 6000 people cruxified. Are you sleeping? After you knew that this really happened? You don't care? O? What about Knight Hospitallers and Hospitals, go visit their website who will kill you whenever you want! Psychiatry, you believe that?
Bribe them? If you believe that, than you are the same as they are, why do you live!

Well, I hope you enjoy the movie. I am a bit of a fan to xlivescom, his movies are Art, History Channel, News Channel all in one.
They make me cry also.
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Bericht  dragonfist op zo jun 13, 2010 7:09 pm

At June 11 2010, Brother Count Vittorio of Venice and Rome gave some very important information, on how to save this planet from the destruction by Antichrist, the Whore in Rome, that has made, or is making, all rulers subject to it's destructive power. You can download it over here;
http://www.2shared.com/audio/R8d2_fWF/zilvervloot.html
Vatican Assassins page on this program:
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2010/06/june-11-2010-ejp-with-count-vittorio-on-alleged-rothschild-banking-monopoly/
After praying for Brothers Eric and Vittorio, the Lord told me to put this on the English part here. Well, I'm just a man, and did not understand why the Lord told me this. I hope He is right. The reason that I doubt that Americans will understand what opportunity I am talking about, is because the opportunity is clear to me, because of the history of my people in 1628. There is a song, that is teached to all children in Holland.
Heb je van de Zilveren Vloot wel gehoord, De Zilveren Vloot van Spanje?
Die had er veel Spaanse matten aan boord, En appeltjes van Oranje
Piet Hein, Piet Hein, Piet Hein, zijn naam is klein
Zijn daden bennen groot, Zijn daden bennen groot
Die heeft gewonnen de Zilveren Vloot!
Die heeft gewonnen, gewonnen de Zilveren Vloot!

Off course this is on rime. I will translate it. On ...ein and on ...oot, that my sound in English as ain and oat, as in the "o" in "over". Double "o" in Dutch written language is spelled as "oe" in English pronouncement, that spells "oe" as "oo", as in "good". I noticed most english speaking people have much problems with Dutch names. Maybe this will be helpful, when you meet a person with a Dutch name.
Over here the English translation.
Have you heard of the Silver Fleet, The Silver Fleet of Spain?
He had many Spanish mats on board, and apples from Orange
Peet Heyn, Peet Heyn, Peet Heyn, his name is small
His actions are big, big are His actions
Who won the Silver Fleet!
Who won, won the Silver Fleet!

The oldest date for this song I would find was 1847.
It seems to me some other song might have been sung before that time.
Because Spain was not the enemy. The enemy where the Roman Catholics, supported by German mercenaries and troops from Spain.


The country in between France, Britain and Germany
The book that was refered to in the program is: Rise of the Dutch Republic by John Lothrop Motley
An important book, that protects the history of the place where I live. This Dutch Republic was replaced by the Batavian Republic promoted by the Patriot Faction, while the invasion of Napoleon Bonaparte created the first King, Louis Napoleon. This way the French revolution created a Monarchy out of a Republic, thanks Napoleon. The Belgian revolt in 1830 was a revolt against the King, but created a Kingdom itself, Belgium. Rise of the Dutch Republic by Motley is uploaded on several places on the web. Another great book on this subject in English is The History of Protestantism by J. A. Wylie.

The Peet Heyn song is remembered in Holland, as the Guy Fawkes song is remembered in Britain. If you are at home in the history research at Vatican Assassins and other historical research, you will maybe understand, that the song is utter nonsense, as is explained also in the linked radio program: Biblical truth in History and Prophecy. Because the Silver captured by Peet Heyn was from the Reductions in Paraguay, not from Spain. Reductions are old fashion Communist and Socialist systems. Over here a map.


Behind this link a nice book on the observation of the conception of communism,
that started centuries before Karl Marx was born. In English.
This lie, that the 80-year war was a war against Spain, is told to all children over here. Just as the Cold War hoax is told as a fact to all children. Peet Heyn would conquer a Blackship, and my ancestors knew very well who they where fighting, and had expelled the Company of Loyola in 1622. That is 6 years before this Silver was taken, that was stolen from the Americans in Southern America by the Pope. The 80-year war was a defense against Roman Catholicism. Many other persecuted people had to flee to America. Let's be honest about it. But before we would loose, evident because we the Dutch are killing for the Pope in Iraq and Afghanistan today also, we had some great victorious battles. From the Silver taken by Peet Heyn, the taking of the city I live today was paid. Over here a list of what was on that ship;
  • 177,000 pounds of silver
  • 66 pounds of gold
  • A thousand pearls
  • Jewelry
  • Hides 37.375
  • Spices
  • Sugar
  • Three tons of silk
  • For nearly two million red dye cochineal
  • Eight tons of gold in blue dye indigo
  • Boxes of turtle
  • Paintings of feathers
  • Musk
  • Amber
  • Beozar stones
All this was not stolen by a Pope run government as it would be today, but invested in freeing more land from the Papacy. The city of 's Hertogenbosch was taken with this loot. Roman Catholicism was expelled there for 150 years, the Cathedral was made into a horse stable. Until Napoleon Bonaparte invaded, supported by local Patriot Factions that believed the French Revolution Philosophy for a Batavian Republic. The Batavian Republic would oppose the Calvinist Republic. Remonstrants are Ecumenical, and where installed here again after Napoleon Bonaparte invaded. These Ecumenical protestants would have thought to be safe in Paris when expelled in 1619, being expelled by the Calvinists. But France had just massacred all the Huguenotes in the 1500's. Ecumenical protestants are deceived. And in control of all churches now. The Gay Marriage was started in The Hague on April 1 2001. Even homosexuals are better off in larger polygamous congregations. Polygamists are still are persecuted severely here by the Government, that is 100% controlled by the Pope in the Reductionist system called Social Democracy. Not by the Queen by the way, but by the evil worship of money/indulgences by the people. Recently I would replace the word Indulgence into Euro in the 95 theses on the Wittemberg door, and these theses still stand today as such.

Now USA is in some ways the same as Holland. Silver Dollar would be stolen from the people in the USA, around the same time Silver Gulden was stolen form the people in Holland, in the 1950's. The police however has not arrested any one, contrary, they play body-guards for the Silver thieves every day, and do maybe not care their children become indulgence slaves. Maybe they will repent in a few thousand years, but I am not that patient! Here I disagree with Brother Phelps severely, I will try to stay on topic here. The Silver thieves can be found in the USA as well as in the Netherlands...
But I might understand USA police is better than over here. Because killing in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Cambodja, Somalia, Afghanistan, all for the Pope, in order to create reductions as North Korea in a Hegelian Dialectic as a sword against brave and civil Japan, is destroying the reputation of the USA. USA, the armies of the Pope. What do you do for a living? O, I kill for the Pope, I'm a proud Patriot. It seems USA is in a terrible state. And another thing: One can not compare Blackwater to Gestapo, because Gestapo where not mercenaries. But Gestapo was in Germany, what the FBI is in the USA. Hunting dissidents with sophist arguments.


Government Police, that worship a Roman Catholic Cardinal
While that, many American Preachers not Catholic are put in jail
Tony Alamo, Fritz Springmeier, Michael Travesser, David Koresh, ...
Any case, there have been several revolts by honest soldiers in de pope's army of the USA that failed recently. Honest men then get shot, or locked up in prison, making a victory even more difficult. But in the 1500's, Dutch soldiers fighting for the Pope would convert, took in the ships owned by Rome, and started an army against Papal Knight Philips the Second. Good information was a key.

May some country wake up, supporting other countries to follow the way of righteousness.
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Bericht  Roelfzema op ma jun 14, 2010 6:36 pm

I would find some video's on Fritz Springmeier, and posted them at the Dutch forum here. In his Book, 13 Illuminati Bloodlines, one family of Dutch heritage is found, the Van Duyn family. I would meet a Van Duyn familie member in the past, that was a candidate for a local Green party, but have no information on whether he had anything to do with a shadow government. I kinda liked the guy, but also regarded him ignorant, because he was not able to be loyal to the foundations of ecologism, and would give a speech where he used the propaganda word environment in the relation to technological ecological corruption, in order to make monopolies possible. And parties trying to stop it. From my meeting with him, I can give no information. He has a weblog here;
http://www.roelvanduijn.nl/
He was an important man in the Provo movement in the 1960's.
http://www.justseeds.org/blog/2008/10/signs_of_change_dutch_provo_ev.html
I as a Dutchman am kinda proud on Provo, but maybe I should be opposite Basketball

Springmeier starts his chapter with seeking for the meaning of the name. For any one that knows the Dutch language, the meaning is very simple. I'll translate it: "from dune". Now dunes may mean nothing abroad than a large heap of sand, but in Holland dunes protect the land against the sea. Not that this gives extra meaning to the name, it only refers to the place this family would live. This might have been at the sea, but also Springmeier traces the heritage back to the province where I live, Brabant, and there is a large nature reservation here, that contains many dunes, and is called the Dunes of Drunen. Drunen is a village. If this is the heritage, they look to me like a poor Roman Catholic family back than. Springmeier than says, "von" is referring to nobility, where he uses a German source. But in the Dutch language, "van" is just the Dutch word for "from", and is used in most names, that refer to a place that these ancestors would live.
It seems to me that this is all to know about this name from the etymological viewpoint.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_van_duyn_bloodline.htm
CONCLUSIONS & SUMMARY

It has been theorized by others that at the top of the Illuminati are unknown superiors, so this should not scare anyone that I don’t have all the details, and that the family is unknown. On the other hand it is very hard to hide people who wield immense power. So far, I have dealt with families that were definitely within the top 13 Illuminati families. If the Van Duyn family is part of the top 13, it may represent the ‘Dutch-Flemish-Belgium segment of the Illuminati, just as the Astors & Rothschild's came from Germany, the Dupont's from France, the Li’s from China, and the Kennedy’s from Ireland. Actually, the entire 13 top families are related in various ways and their heritages go back to the ancient nobility of Europe, to the tribe of Dan, and to the Khazars. Many of these top families feel they are descendents of the House of David. One researcher has even told me that the royal house of Japan is blood relation to the thirteenth top Illuminati family. (Truth is often stranger than fiction, but this sounds truly incredible.) That would be interesting if the genealogy (which he claims does exist) does actually show that. It would help explain why Japan is being brought into the picture. I was able only to identify that the Van Duyn family was a very early colonial American family of status, and that the few modern members of this family which I could identify are suspiciously tied to the establishment and fit the type of persons we would expect from a top 13 family. If anyone has any information concerning this subject, that information would be appreciated.
Okay.
I was very greived to hear, that Bro Fritz is in jail for some 7 years now. And maybe some one can forward my information to him, but I would prefer he would be set free. Since we don't know what will happen in the future, maybe Cisco Wheeler or any researcher in the field will find this information useful.

I live in the country that this family came from, and all I can say is: A counseller in the 80-year war would sign a 12-year threaty in 1609 with the papists, where he would allow Roman Catholicism to remain as a propaganda to brainwash the people against the truth in the southern provinces. Later this country of Brabant was conquered by the North, where people where sane enough to make Roman Catholicism prohibited. Since the Van Duyn family is the only Dutch family mentioned by Fritz Springmeier in the bloodlines, I see a very clear Roman Catholic connection. In other words, Van Duyn would seem to me a Roman Catholic bloodline because of the heritage Springmeier refers to. If this family would have lived in the North in the 1600's, it would NOT have been Catholic.

Further Springmeier is telling some stuff on his research in that chapter on Brussels and Amsterdam. Murderdam was the name the Wild Beggars of the Sea would give to Amsterdam, because Amsterdam is and was very papish. Not because of the people there, as is in Brabant where Van Duyn is from, but because Rome really wants control there. And they have again since Napoleon invaded. King William of Orange, the King of England, would according to Springmeier move the most important center of illuminati finances from Amsterdam to London. To me this is logical, because I would read The Prince, by Machiavell, and a way to gain on and control the enemy, is to live in the city you want to conquer. The House of Orange, according to an article I would read some time ago, still has financial connections to the Rotschild bankers. But as I understand it, this is because most White Nobility has a serious lack of information. No one would suspect a Jewish family to be the bankers of the Vatican. That is also the reason the Rotschild's where used, because the British people where just as anti-papist as the Dutch in the 1600's. Supporting the Jews always has been a great honor, because they are being persecuted by Rome through the ages.

Brussels is a Roman Catholic intellectual center, maybe can be compared to Vienna. William Silent would study there, before he converted to Calvinism. The only country around here where the Company of Jesus was never expelled, because Belgium started in 1830. Was supported by French armies. In the North we mainly have Redemptorists, that I would meet many, and would seem to me just the Company under another name. But the Company is powerful enough, to be open to the fact, that the most politicians in the north are educated by Black Robes in the south. An important intellectual center in the south of the current Netherlands is Nymegen, where there is a Canisius College. I was arrested in Nymegen some years ago for being a Protestant, and the police would lie everything. I maybe should be grateful te have survived that arrest, because other protestants where helping us kidnapped normal people out, by making a noise demonstration at the Police station.
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Bericht  Butcherprophet op za jun 26, 2010 10:40 pm


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Steppenwolf - Monster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpuyXdKx9Ws
From the 1970 release "Monster" Steppenwolf Cover

Words and music by John Kay, Jerry Edmonton, Nick St. Nicholas and Larry Byrom

(Monster)
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and Pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster

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